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November 26, 2024 at 8:37 pm #382435
Hi Everyone,
My question is: How to get good quality wireless recording?
So, I want to be able to put my iPhone on my tripod, then walk some distance away and sit down and play my guitar and get a good quality audio on the recording. Sure, I can just move the iPhone up close and get decent audio from the iPhone mic or a plug-in mic. But I want to get more background into the scene. I’ve seen little lavalier (??) mics like bloggers use, but I suspect they aren’t good quality.
I haven’t found any good ideas online, so I’m asking the human internet.
Sunjamr Steve
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November 27, 2024 at 3:54 am #382438
So you want to record exactly what you play (ie. No faking) but you don’t want the recording to be apparent? Hence the small lavalier mics?
Does it have to be an iPhone to do the audio recording?
I’d be tempted to fit a good quality acoustic pickup to the guitar and then a wireless guitar system/cable to take it back to an audio interface and then to a DAW/Iphone. That’s a lot more hardware than just an IPhone to carry with you but it would be off camera and would likely mitigate wind noise more than a mic.
If you go the mic route it will need to be directional to cut down extraneous noise and is likely to be compromised unless you can get the mic close to the guitar.-
November 27, 2024 at 1:53 pm #382456
Yes, that’s exactly it, Andy. What I found is that as I move the camera farther from my guitar, the sound volume drops off dramatically. In an outside environment, I have to be not more than about 1 meter (3 feet) away from the guitar to get any decent recording volume. And if vehicles drive past, or any kids are shouting, dogs barking, it all becomes way too dominant. Maybe a directional mic would extend that distance somewhat, but not as far as I want.
I had thought of treating it just like a studio situation, where I set up my camera, then put my laptop nearby and do a simultaneous direct-feed recording into my DAW. But as you say, that’s more hardware than I want to carry off to remote locations. Surely I am not the first person to want to try this, so I shall keep looking and experimenting until I achieve audio nirvana.
Sunjamr Steve
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November 27, 2024 at 4:02 am #382439
Not sure whether this helps Steve, but I used an iRig Mic connected to my smartphone with reasonable results for years .
You could look into this technology and see if it fits your requirements.Richard
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November 27, 2024 at 1:41 pm #382454
Aha, I forgot about those iRig mics. I remember them as requiring a wired connection to your guitar, but probably now days they can do it wirelessly. And probably just plugging it into my iPhone would feed the audio into my camera app, no DAW needed. Good idea, thanks Richard!
Sunjamr Steve
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November 27, 2024 at 11:27 am #382452
Steve
I am not sure what you mean by quality but that is the only way I record. I’m not sure if my recordings are bad, they sound ok to my ear and I have a pretty snobby palet when it comes to recording. Have you thought about an iPhone mic? They make condenser mics for phones. I haven’t resorted to one but I have thought about it. I am always looking for ways to improve audio and video.-
November 27, 2024 at 2:17 pm #382459
Well, I do have a Shure MV88 condenser mic which plugs into my iPhone. It definitely gives improved audio, but it also amplifies any nearby noise, which is a problem when recording outside. And again, the volume is too quiet if I’m more than one meter away. BTW, my expensive Shure mic plugs into the Lightning port, whereas all new iPhones have a USB-C port. Hmm, guess I’ll have to source some kind of adapter.
I want to be able to go sit under a big tree (for example) and put the camera far enough away to get the whole tree in the scene, then do a live recording, no post production, no dubbing. I’ll try to post an example in the next few days.
Sunjamr Steve
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November 27, 2024 at 2:22 pm #382460
And I guess the root reason for all this is that I am getting really bored with always just recording myself sitting in my music room. I tried moving into an upgraded music room, but now I’m bored sitting in my upgraded music room. And New Zealand is one of the most photogenic places on earth, so why not take advantage of that?
Sunjamr Steve
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November 27, 2024 at 3:24 pm #382461
That sounds like a cool project Steve and somewhere in the mental archives a few synapses fired and I remembered watching this Paul David’s video
I wondered how he recorded it as you can hear the water at one point, so it was live, and there’s no pickups on the guitar.
He’s got a mic linked in the description which looks like a portable track recorder. The product in the link comes up as unavailable (in the uk) but there’s others like it. I couldn’t quite see where he had it, it might be under his gloves or by a rock. It’s quite close I think as the fretboard squeaks are quite loud. Plus you’d still need to do some post production.He’s done a video of similar vintage, where he recorded himself in the states too in various locations. There might be some clues in there about where he places it.
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November 28, 2024 at 1:39 pm #382489
Cool, thanks Andy! At 29 seconds in, he is holding either a Zoom or Tascam remote recorder. So he shoots the audio and video separately, then syncs them in his video editing software. A quick look on the internet shows me that those things are quite expensive. But if it’s good enough for Paul Davis, it’s good enough for me.
Sunjamr Steve
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November 27, 2024 at 4:35 pm #382464
One way to do it would be to get one of them portable battery operated recorders/interface like Zoom or Tascam, something like Reina and Toni did here:
I actually just got Tascam DR40x myself because I love the idea of recording independently of my phone or computer. I already used it in the October challenge and was happy with the results.
Reina and Toni have also used a wireless Audigo microphone outdoors with excellent sound quality, a mic you remotely control from your mobile device.
🎸JoLa
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November 28, 2024 at 1:30 pm #382488
Aha! That seems like it might be the answer. I’ll spend some time today delving into those kinds of recorders. I’ve seen them, but It never entered my mind to try one. I’m just amazed that more people haven’t posted how-to videos on remote recording. So far, all my efforts are sounding awful.
Sunjamr Steve
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November 28, 2024 at 2:39 am #382476
I sometimes use the Zoom H2n field recorder in situations like that (there are more recent models).
But usually there is still some (light) post production work to do. -
November 28, 2024 at 3:34 am #382480
………………………………….Hi Steve I have the Zoom H4n ………………
But haven’t Posted with it yet the…….the above link shows it and the one Jola has
am sure you will fix something out ……….we all like some scenery with our music
You Take care ……….Play loud …… Cheers. Billy Hynd
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