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Hi Alan,
I’m still listening and musing but for the first part that’s close to what I’m hearing. Certainly the line cliche over G at the start there.
A couple of nuances.
For the Cm I think I’m hearing an A on the top so I’ve got a Cm6 there.
For that first D in bar 4 I’m not hearing a straight D. I think it might be a Dsus4 for a beat followed by a D7 before returning to the G.The second Part I’m still puzzling over. It sounds like another line cliche. I’m hearing a step down from a Em to an Eb bass note but not convinced it’s a straight Eb chord. Not convinced it’s just a simple move of the Bass note leaving the remainder of the Em either 😬
I’ve also got another Dsus4->D7 after the last D (after the Am) before going back to the G again
The Am goes on for ages so not sure if there’s something further going on there or it’s just some melody notes on top.
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Good call on the 6, 9 and sus4. I’m trained as a bass player so I often gloss over chord extensions 🙂 a sus4 especially would be very Lennon…
In the B section I had Eb (major) at first but the arpeggio Eb-G-B sounded “more right” so I changed it to Em/Eb (as in E minor with Eb in the bass… which is what I think you’re getting at.)
And I swear I’m hearing the motion E-Eb-C#-C-D… I originally had C#dim7 before the Am but changed that to A7 as the arpeggio C#-G-A sounded “more right” than C#-G-Bb. (Since A7 and C#dim 7 share 3 tones- C#, E, G- they’re pretty close and could be interchangeable depending on dropping that one note.)
This is fun 🙂
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Done some more listening on the Em part and I’m also hearing a G when the bass moves to the D after the Eb/Em thingy. After that, the bass goes down to a C#, the high G stays but I’m not sure what’s going on in the midrange! I’m not hearing an A7. I think there’s a B and/or an Ab in there too but it’s a very dark chord! Maybe some extension of a C#7?
I think you’re right though, there’s quite a few options there especially with the arpeggiation of the notes and it probably doesn’t matter wrt to playing over it.
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Hi , I’m hearing after the Em a G augmented , a G then a G diminished 5 , they all fit the track to my ear . But I’m no expert , what do you think ?
Martin
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Certainly in the ball park! It’s funny …
Em/Eb (Eb-G-D) is the same as G aug (G-B-D#).
C# dim 7 (C#-E-G-Bb) is the same as G dim 7 (G-Bb-Db-E, or technically Fb).
A7 contains a C#dim triad, Eb7 contains a G dim triad.
Lots of shared notes and enharmonics that muck up the waters!
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I had to lookup G augmented in my Ladybird book of chords!
But as Alan says, that does fit the second chord after the Em as an inversion when the bass moves down to the Eb.Hi Andy , basically I looked up chords in the key of G which contained those notes and it kinda fits , but as Alan mentioned there’s other chords that will fit in the same way ,
I guess as long as those chord tones are used it’ll sound right , it’s a fun one for sure.Martin
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I don’t want to overthink it… To me it’s a Em chord with a descending line-cliche of E, Eb, D, Db. You all have basically described that using the chord names created by that moving line. I know Brian has taught about line-cliches before, but I’ve never heard him talk much about chord extensions, so I’m keeping it simple. It seems to sound good.
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If that’s helpful for anyone, in EP314 right at the beginning Brian uses the same line cliche as the Em cliche discussed here with descending E-Eb-D-Db but in the key of Dm and with the open D string. So if you move it up two frets to the Em chord position and only play the top 3 strings, it works perfectly in the Em part of the track 🙂
🎸JoLa
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Hi all,
Hope everyone is well.
Just picking up my guitar after a lot of time away (intense non-guitar times in my life at the moment! Family, work, and my new theology course, which is fascinating…)
I have only just seen this challenge in the last 5 minutes… I am clueless on the chord discussions that have just gone on (what’s a G6? ) !
But I am pleased that I quickly settled on the G major pentatonic to play over it! It sounds OK…
I will try to learn all about these chord progressions that you all talk about! 😀
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